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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 20, 2011 5:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

"On January 20, the musicians flew to Eureka to begin the tour, exited the plane, and found what appeared to be half the cops in the country there to greet them. Eureka and San Francisco are both in California, but they most assuredly do not share the same state of mind. The Quick and the Dead proceeded to the hall, put on a show that blew minds, and headed to Seattle. Unfortunately, their cleanup was not perfect, and after the gig, police found roaches and rolling papers, leading the local press to call the show a pot orgy."
Dennis McNally


If there is another Grateful Dead performance that "Swings" like 1/20/68, I have yet to hear it! Is that Benny Goodman and Gene Krupa sitting in for Clementine?

benny goodman and gene krupa Pictures, Images and Photos

1/20/68 Eureka Municipal Auditorium

Clementine > New Potato Caboose > Born Cross Eyed > Spanish Jam > Caution Jam > Dark Star

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-01-20.sbd.miller.97340.sbeok.flac16

***Has anyone been able to figure out where the amazing Violas and Schoolgirl included on Road Trip's II/2 fit into the set sequence?

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jan 20, 2011 7:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

Trying to figure out "where the magic comes from" is very tricky, and I absolutely agree that 1/20/68 is a great example of the rhythmic vitality that makes 68 and early 69 so special. I think a lot of it comes from the snap and emphasis of the snare drums in these years. The sharp accentuations really drive the music forward, and Garcia's "fat" tone, combined the much simpler rhythmic patterns of his soloing in comparison to his later style, create the impression that the music is being driven forward by an almost unstoppable force - you could put a brick wall in front of it, and the groove would just crash right through it.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 20, 2011 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

"you could put a brick wall in front of it, and the groove would just crash right through it"

That's an excellent post and right on the money! Thanks for taking the time to share that.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 20, 2011 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

I was struck by the comment CLIFF alludes to, and also by the "fat" tone one as well, which I think has always been a nice way to characterize the first half of 68 relative to the latter...somehow, I can't describe it, but I knew instantly what you meant.

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Poster: Skobud Date: Jan 20, 2011 5:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

Love it. Love it. Love it. Top ten all time show for me and the Viola off the Road Trips 2.2 is my all time Viola as well. The Schoolgirl is no slouch either.

I think that the setlist was as simple as this:

Viola
Schoolgirl
Clementine ->
New Potato Caboose ->
Born Cross-Eyed ->
Space ->
Spanish Jam ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Jam ->
Dark Star

I think on the circulating copy the machine just was not on for the first two songs...Or, maybe they had a problem and had to change reels between Clementine and whatever actually came before it. Clementine does sound clipped because of the way it fades in....Maybe, just maybe the tape with Viola and Schoolgirl suffered from warble so badly it was unlistenable until they remastered it. Who knows, but that was a very common problem back then...Tape oscillation/warble that is.

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Poster: BVD Date: Jan 20, 2011 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

Forgot to mention Teddy Wilson on piano! Doesn't get much better than this show!

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jan 20, 2011 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

oh i knew you'd be all over this one CH! this show just gets better every time i hear it. i can't get enough of it. i totally get why you love this one so much! the sound is just so "dense". everything flows like a river. its short, but so very, very sweet.

Whats amazing to me is Pigpens contributions during this early '68 period; he really adds so much to the performances, not just playing along but really adding in some gorgeous fills and melodic patterns, even soloing here and there. its sad that he would become more and more shifted into the background as time went on...

i'm listening to the NPC right now, and all i can muster really is...wow..the ending, just wow...



This post was modified by clementinescaboose on 2011-01-20 20:44:42

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Poster: dylan&theded Date: Jan 20, 2011 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

Just had to mention Phil on Clementine which leads me to believe he will be the leading man for the remainder of the performance

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 20, 2011 5:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

The Clementine is sublime. An essential 33' of GD. Not a 1%er, but a .01%er.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-01-20.sbd.miller.97340.sbeok.flac16



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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 20, 2011 5:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

In the show we discussed a few days ago, they closed the second set with Schoolgirl so its seems possible that it was the final song. Not sure about the Viola or if there was anything else after the Dark Star. Perhaps a China Cat? Do you think there was anything before the Clementine? There is no reason to assume it was the first song of the set although this is from deadlists:

"DeadBase lists a Jam > before Clementine, but in the back they say Jam#, #Clementine and that the tape cuts in on an announcer saying "...crank it up, lay it down, Grateful Dead". Glenn Gillis says he has the jam and its more like 45 mins (I think the Jam was not on the GDH and tapes that trace back to it)****"

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 20, 2011 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

I would ignore what 'Glenn Gillis' says on deadlists; even if he was telling the truth, he hasn't shared his tape with anyone...that comment is probably many years old.

It appears on that NW tour, they did not do two-set shows, but preferred to do one continuous set of about an hour or more.
Viola Lee Blues may have been the opener - you can hear tuning after the end, so at least it wasn't the last number.
Schoolgirl cuts right out after the end, so it's impossible to tell where it fit - could have been anywhere in the set.

I also think it's very unlikely Clementine came first, or anywhere near first...I'm sure it came out of a Cryptical suite, just like it does on 1/23, 2/2, and 1/26/69.
What came after Dark Star is anyone's guess!

Given that complete sets of this tour are an hour or more, I'm sure we're still missing a big chunk of this show. ('1/23/68' seems to be the longest we have, at about 90 minutes, if the Road Trips bonus tracks were attributed correctly. But that's a troublesome date. Considering that, as far as we can tell, there wasn't even a show on 1/23, that could have just been a date stuck on a couple different reels.)

It's a shame this show is in pieces - it must have been cut up early on, as no one suspected the Viola Lee or Schoolgirl even existed til they were found abandoned in a studio on a compilation reel.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 22, 2011 4:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

Agreed that Violas was likely the show opener on 1/20/68 and judging from the stage banter prior to the Violas on 1/23/68 it probably opened that performance as well.

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Poster: vapors Date: Jan 20, 2011 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

This performance made me shout out "Eureka!" when I first heard it!

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Poster: face of space Date: Jan 23, 2011 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH (1968) - Why do I love this show so much?

I love this show for the Spanish Jam, which oddly is my favorite version. Eureka from these shows was recognizing parts on the album.

No, I think it's the Spanish Jam from 2-14 that I like. 1/22 was better too.

This post was modified by face of space on 2011-01-24 04:48:35